Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Yeah, you can find a lot of video creators, but the problem is you don't find too many author video creators in our space. And it's so tough to kind of tie those down because there's some people that are. That are doing it, but they're.
It's kind of like.
It's like, oh, yeah, I've got a YouTube. Yeah. Okay.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: When.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: When was the last time you post a video? 10 years ago, but.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: You're not doing YouTube. Shut up.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Right.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. On that note, man, it's been. It's been forever, right? This time it's sort of been flying by. But last we talked was. Well, at the very least, back in November, live. Yeah.
So I've just been full on YouTube. I've been having so much fun with it and. And I just want to keep going with it. And one thing you and I talked about, and I have. I did put out a little.
Well, speaking of asking, I did put out a little ask for. Because I'd like to learn more about what fiction authors are doing, because I'm not. I've done some fiction, but I don't really do fiction anymore. And so what are fiction authors doing? And part of this was, hey, what's.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: Didn't you post that in Wipe for the Win? Was that it?
[00:01:04] Speaker B: I did. I did.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: That's what I thought. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. I, I tried to take a step back because I was like, okay, I don't need to talk here.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Right. Well, on the other hand, are you going to go to Author Nation again or.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: No, no, I won't be. I mean, if I'm, if I'm invited back, that's fine, but unfortunately I kind of the bed last year, so I highly doubt that is going to be bringing me back, so.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Right. Okay.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: Is what it is.
[00:01:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
Well, you know, actually, on that note, speaking of conferences and stuff, I think it's an interesting niche to be like YouTube and author. Right.
And part of me, part of me was thinking like, huh, could that be like, you don't think yourself that way?
No, I do.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: You don't think.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: But. Oh, okay.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Yeah. You are definitely an author. Video creator.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Oh, no, no, no. Absolutely. No, I'm not worried. I get it. But I'm curious about like, like speaking at other conferences or something. Right. Or presenting at conferences about that topic.
Because.
So anyway, one thing, one thing we could talk about and hit record. Although I already hit record. One thing is I'd like to know more about what you're doing.
So when we were last talking. You were, you were doing fiction. You were going to, you were going to take a step back from one of your channels. Is that like the more nonfiction channel?
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah, the two, the two YouTube channels will probably. They've already kind of been deprioritized.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: The plan is to launch the fiction brand. It was supposed to be a lot sooner, but Kickstarter turned into an absolute nightmare for me to fulfill for all the stuff to put on it. That's another story for another day.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Well, I remember that's why we haven't talked because you. You kept telling me you're so busy with that.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: Yeah, thankfully it's. It's finally off my plate. I got all the sponsorships done. So here's the funny thing is I've had video projects like, literally piling up for over the last year. I recorded one last March.
Last March.
Video projects. So being like. So for instance, one of the projects, I'm doing a collaboration with Michael Lauren where we did a six versus one type game where we got six authors and we brought in one fake authority and then we had them all try to figure out who was the fake author.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Oh, no way.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: So, yeah, I've been saying how that was since last March.
What's that?
[00:03:27] Speaker B: I guess the 6 one's AI. AI is.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: No, no, no. This is like real people. No, these are like real people.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Like you said, there were six and one.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: No, nope, nope. So the, the other one ended up being an actor we. We brought in. Michael has had a good friend who was an actor. He. We brought him in. But yeah, we just did like a zoom chat type deal.
But I got halfway through producing it right around like May time. And as soon as Kickstarter came my way, that like that project just went off to the wayside. I was like, okay, that's just gonna have to go the side. But literally I sat down last week, spent about two to three hours.
I had to dig into what I had on tap, and I literally have the next three weeks worth of concept planned.
The big deal right now is podcast channel's doing really, really well. I'm doing about one post per week. That's probably going to maintain like right about there.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: It's doing really, really good content. Rich podcast, rich content.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: So I've got two YouTube channels that do really well. So if I ever say the main channel, that's the one I got the hundred thousand subscribers on.
[00:04:33] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: And then the podcast channel is my smaller one which has got about 21,000 subscribers.
So yeah, that has Been doing really, really well, especially with like minimal effort. Problem is, over the last year I've done absolutely like, I haven't been consistent about my posting schedule. And when I do it's a sponsored video. And unfortunately, I think it got to the point that a lot of my viewers just stopped watching the videos because they're like, here we go, here's another sponsored video. Like hard eye roll, here's another sponsor. And I'm like. And that was the biggest mistake because having the sponsor stuff is not bad in itself. But if that's all you're giving to your audience, yeah, mid roll ads, totally different. You know, if I were just throw mid roll rods, that's fine. But a lot of them were dedicated videos. And the issue was all I had time for four at the time was through sponsored stuff. And see, I took on like three sponsors. I did Author Nation on top of that, right in the middle. And then I had Kickstarter. So you know, when I say I the bed with Kickstarter, I did really well as an MC and a speaker. But as a video creator, I was supposed to come there and create all the assets for them during the conference. Problem was I brought a shitty laptop that literally would crash any time I put any like two or three layers onto the editing stuff.
I spread myself too thin because I was going meeting up with everybody and right.
I communicated with Suze and Shell about it, but I didn't directly communicate with Joe because it was very rarely I saw him. And so it gets about, you know, I get home, it's been a week into it, and I let them know, hey, I'm gonna go ahead and start to tackle this stuff. Okay, great.
Gets about four weeks into it and I'm still don't have the assets to him. And Joe kind of pretty much was like, hey, you're gonna get this on over to us or what? And I'm kind of like, oh yeah. And so made it right for him, you know. But at the end of the day, spread myself way too thin. So this year what I gotta do is I'm gonna definitely do the Fiction YouTube channel. So my main focus is going to be taking the main channel and just reviving it.
So I got to go back, dig into all these different projects because the nice thing is a lot of it's evergreen content that's been needing to be updated. So things like KDP review, which by the way, I did it, I did the most comprehensive KDP review ever. Like this is the longest I've ever done a video for 6800 words.
Typically, most of my videos are like 2500 words to 3000 words, you know? Yeah, 41 freaking minutes, man. 41 minutes. I'm halfway through producing a damn video. But I think it's going to revive things also. It's five weeks straight and I imagine probably even for longer that it's going to be no sponsors whatsoever. I'm just going to focus on goodwill with the community. And the only thing I'll probably be pushing is my email list, which can you blame me?
[00:07:26] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: Beyond that, though, I mean, it's pretty good. But as soon as I can get myself the next five weeks, that's when I'll probably be able to focus then on the new Fiction Channel, because I've already got the content planned. I got about 12 weeks worth because I was going to do about one post per week on the Fiction Channel.
The other thing I need to. Is the missing piece is I have a serial fiction that's halfway done.
So I want to finish that up and that's going to become my lead magnet and then I'm going to go ahead, start to do some.
I'm going to look into some reader giveaway type things where I'll just build the list, get it just ridiculously big and taking off.
So that way channel gets launched. I've got an email list to send people to and then we'll be able to build it from there.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: But yeah, I've got a lot. Like a dozen different ideas. Two videos are fully written, already done. Like I did that last year before Author Nation, oddly enough.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: Which another thing.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: Shouldn't have been working on it then. Should have been working on it.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: There is way too much that I was trying to do, but ADHD is a bitch, right?
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah, yeah, wow. You got a lot going on. So you're trying to narrow that down and not have 47 things going on, but more, you know, 32 things.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. I think the main priority is just to try to get the main channel back on its tracks and a lot of that trust rebuilt with the YouTube viewership. Because some people are like, we'll say, oh, no, no, we don't mind it.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Don't you?
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Yeah, because I see the analytics over here and it tells me you give zero flying about what I'm doing over here. So like, I was like, okay, I need to stop being selfish. I need to stop putting out these sponsored only videos. Sponsored videos alone. It's fine. You know, if you had a Few other things to kind of balance it out. But if, if all it is is just, well, let me promote pro writing aid or let me push this. People are going to be like, nah, bro, we're not going to hear that.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: So this. So the whole video was about pro writing aid, but it was sponsored and sort of. Was it like obvious that it was sponsored or. I mean.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. I, I always. Every single video. This is something I learned a long time ago. So you're not around the FTC is.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:35] Speaker A: The very first thing you should say when you go into a sponsored video is this video sponsored by so and so. So that way you don't have. Because there's like, God, I can't tell you, like, early on when I was doing these sponsorships, I wasn't doing that. You would get that pedantic motherfucker who comes in there and be like,
[00:09:52] Speaker B: oh,
[00:09:53] Speaker A: okay, okay, that's it, that's it. You're obviously a. You can't see that little box that pops up in the YouTube video. So.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: You know where it says paid promotion.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: So I have the paid promotion and I verbally say it. And on top of, I make sure to say my sponsors when I'm, you know.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Special thanks to my sponsors.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: But it's interesting because you, I mean, you're, you're not, you're not selling rubber duckies, you're doing absolutely relevant products. But still, that just didn't fly as well as the non sponsors, I think.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: I think the thing is, I needed to have a balance.
What a lot of people expect of me is talking about self publishing specifically.
I've found that the videos in which I talk about the craft of writing perform a lot less than I do with publishing.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: So it's almost like every now and then my video, my viewers will say, shut the about writing. We want to talk about the publishing aspect. You know, it. It's true. That's the thing is you have to kind of look at that data and go, okay, what's real? Because like, let's see. Or several years ago, I had a great idea. This was, this was awesome. I was like, I get with one of my friends and I was like, dude, what do you think of this idea? What if I go and I write horror books in a haunted house? And they're like, dude, that's a great idea. So I found a haunted hotel down in southern Ohio. I booked time. It has a whole story behind it. It had actually various celebrities and famous people. Presidents.
Mark Twain came Through there.
That was actually the room I stayed in, was Mark Twain's room.
So it was really super cool. So the idea was like, okay, this is really cool, especially super meta if I'm writing in an author's, like, you know, you know, former quarters. And so, yeah, I went in there, I poured my heart into it. My video producer, he whipped together something amazing, and it was the worst performing video I had in years.
And I. I remember I was so defeated. I was like, this is good. Like, why do they not care about this? And I'm like, it doesn't matter what they care about, right? I was like, you know, obviously, it was. It was great to me, to my viewing audience, they were like, not.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: So you just took my strategy there. I just. Yeah, do whatever I want.
Oh, they don't want that. Oh, but I know. But I do, you know? Yeah.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: Oh, they don't want it. Well, them. I'm gonna go ahead and work to the 18 people who are watching,
[00:12:34] Speaker B: here's
[00:12:35] Speaker A: the funny thing is, Bradley, is I actually have a. Another YouTube channel that I had put together, like, a number of years ago. And what I did was. Are you familiar with the Amazon Influencer program?
[00:12:49] Speaker B: No.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: So essentially, if you got a certain amount of followers on social media or elsewhere, you can apply for the Amazon Influencer program, which is essentially like Amaz Associates, but for influencers.
And in that program, you can upload videos about products and, you know, they could be product reviews, just as long as you're not, you know, talking about pricing, you're not talking about sales, you're not making any, like, ridiculous, like, oh, I drank this protein shake. It helped me gain 10 pounds of muscle. Like, you can't do anything like that.
But. So as generic and as flat as possible is what I've learned is very successful with Amazon Influencer. In fact, I purposely make my videos. Shit, I will get an iPhone and I will literally just shoot it right on the spot. No extra. Like, you know, this. I just. Just shoot and go.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Right.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: So here's what happens is it attaches it to the asin of that specific product. And so that video could be served on a carousel on the product page. If someone watches that product or that video and orders that product, you get a percentage of that sale.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: So you can have a ton of these. And of course, there's also the also bots, so they will show videos of the also bot of your video.
And if someone buys on there, if they watch a certain percentage of your video, you get paid for it. So at Any rate, it's not as great as it used to be, man. I really, literally, you could make thousands. I knew my good friend of mine was like pulling in like six or $8,000 per month. It was ridiculous. Like, I was pulling in maybe a grand to two grand per month. It wasn't a whole hell of a lot because I didn't put a lot of effort into it. I always look at it like this. It's like a rebate program. I'll buy the product to Amazon and I just shoot the video to upload it and I get myself a rebate.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: Right, right.
Sounds like a rebate that's more than. More value than the thing cost.
[00:14:37] Speaker A: Right, Exactly. Yeah. Some of them really, really cat products are really, really good for me. But anyway, I just, I've. The videos don't have to remain exclusive to Amazon's platform. So I was like, well, fuck it, I'll go ahead and put it over on YouTube.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: I've already got a down.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: Right, exactly. So YouTube.
What I would do is I'd use Genius link because I already had subscription with them and I would drop the Genius link to that. So I'm actually getting money from that. And that was my whole plan. But here's the funny thing is I literally. I do exactly what they tell you not to do, which is you got a niche down.
Don't do everything, you know, because you're not going to attract the right audience.
Bradley. I am 15 subscribers away from having a fully monetized YouTube channel from a drawer. Like, I call it the junk drawer is what I call it, because I literally throw all my junk videos into it. Like I have some, like, where I play Marvel Puzzle Quest. So I record Marvel Puzzle Quest. I'm like, here I'm doing the Token Redemption, dude. Yeah. Literally, I am 985 subscribers right now. It's just been a slow build over the years.
And I'm actually still getting paid from the videos because people are buying through Amazon Associates. But you ready for this? In the last month or two, they've rolled out shopping on YouTube and they're doing with a lot more like Kohl's, Walmart, Target.
So what you do is you go into these product videos, you can now tag those products.
And so the funny. It doesn't have Amazon on there yet, but I was able to find most of the products that I had posted through the junk drawer. So I'm triple dipping.
I'm getting paid on Amazon. I'm getting paid. And here's the funny thing is, you're not allowed to do a call to action in the video at all for Amazon Influencer. So, like, there's no get the product link to Amazon inside the description? Nope, I don't say that at all. It literally is just me showing the product and that's it. I don't even say anything else. Not go buy this out, go check it out. Nothing like that. It's literally like that. And yeah, you just tag the video on YouTube and if someone buys it size there you get. And some of the, the commissions are way better than Amazon. Like, I think the other day I saw Kohl's was like 10. I was like, what?
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Wow. Wow, that's crazy. That's crazy.
Yeah, that's fun stuff. Wow. The, the fun talking with you because you're, you're, you're doing so much stuff that I'm not doing, but I'm interested in, but I'm just not there yet. But it's really cool. It's cool to hear. It's great.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it's the, that, to be honest, the whole idea of the drug drawer, I, I did it purposely because I wanted to see if, even if you're lazy and just do a bunch of random, you'll get monetized and I mean, here we go.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Oh, that's fun.
Wow.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: So. But.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: All right, so did you get, did
[00:17:40] Speaker A: you ever get any of the fiction authors, like, take you up on that?
[00:17:44] Speaker B: I did.
I was just editing her video. I was gonna put it up today.
Oh, nice. Lainey Laney Smith. I think it's a, it's a pen name. It was like a very generic name. Something like Lainey Smith or something.
Yeah, it was neat. And she's doing. It was kind of fun because she wasn't doing much. She's just. Yeah, I just put up a, an image which kind of moves and then I do the whole audiobook. But she does romance and I think, I think it's borderline steamy or something like that. And she has to take out the steamy bits for the YouTube part. But she says, yeah, you know, she's showing some video. I'm like, yeah, I got like 67, 000 videos on this and I'm viewed on this. I'm like, that, that's nine hours long. She's like, yeah, that one's pretty popular.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Damn. The mid roll ads on that has to be insane.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: 67,000. Did she, did she do mid roll?
I don't, I don't know.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: Did she do it?
[00:18:42] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: I'm just Curious.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: No, I don't know if. Yeah, she barely knows what she's doing. You know, she's just, like, uploading stuff. And I guess she may not even
[00:18:52] Speaker A: be, like, fully monetized, then she's probably just letting stuff kind of go.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: She is, then.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Yeah, she is. She is monetized. But it wasn't, you know, like. Like what you just said. Oh, are you doing the mid roll? Are you doing this? Are you doing that? I'm not even sure she knows, but I actually thought that was kind of cool.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Mid roll, those. That sounds really good.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Middle. You mean, like, roll right here from eating too, right? Yeah, I got mid roll right here.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I got a ton of mid roll.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah. So I don't know if, you know, but I actually thought that was kind of cool because that would give, you know, that would inspire fiction authors to say, like, what's not so bluntly. But she doesn't even know what she's doing, and she's making money. I could do this, too, you know,
[00:19:37] Speaker A: you do me a favor. Could you send me a link to that? I'll be working on the news segment, I think, probably tomorrow, and it should be going out on Thursday.
If it's not going out this week, that's fine. But send me the link because I'll push today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you get it up there, please send it over my direction. Consider it pushed. I'll get it on out there in my next news segment. Because I think that's. I think there's a lot more, like, fiction authors need to understand. Like, I think so many people think that they have to be on camera. And I'm like, yeah, that'll help you. But in a lot of instances, like, kind of like what you're showing here, like, Nick Thacker did that as well. He fully monetized the YouTube channel just with digital audiobook. A digital audiobook.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:16] Speaker A: And so that just kind of goes to show that, I mean, it's. It doesn't really require much work. It only requires the work that you want to put into it, so.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: All right.
Made a note to myself, because I do that thing.
Hey, so I'm actually in Italy, and I'm actually on sort of an unexpected holiday.
But I've had you on the damn calendar for so long. I tell my wife, I'm like, go walk around town. I gotta talk with Dale.
But I was wondering, like, what, if anything, I know you don't want more on your plate, but. Okay, let me just put it this way. What I would Love to do. I would love to just hit record and talk about YouTube stuff like author related YouTube stuff for 15 minutes. Yeah, just even like. Do you have 10 minutes right now?
[00:21:04] Speaker A: I gotta. I got a break here in about five minutes, actually, because I do have the shared office space. So why don't we do this? Could you just book a time on the calendar again and then let's. Because then you'll have me fully focused.
[00:21:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And me not being in my Airbnb with my giant echoing room. What was. What was that link? Can you remember if you.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, give me just a second. Yeah, no problem. Like, I. I'm. As if you're like saving every single one of my.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: I have your notes posted on my wall and framed.
Cool.
Okay.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: And then just so I don't forget, let me drop you a link to my press kit. So that way if you need that. You've got it.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Okay, cool. Boom.
All right. Got it.
Because what I was thinking. Oh, that's awesome. Great.
I like that Dale Links thing. I've seen you use that a lot.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Yes, it's so. Yeah, my damn web address used to be self publishingwithdale.com can you imagine how many times I had to go visit self publishingwithdale.com forward slash.
Obviously it was a full sentence, so I was like Dalelinks.com blah, blah, blah. But it's a. When I'm freaking voice dictating because it always like daily inks dot com.
That's not what I said.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Oh, did you say dot com? Excuse me? You're going.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: Exactly. But yeah, yeah, go ahead and book a time and let's. Let's see about getting together. If you could obviously skip the rest of this week, that would be awesome.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not. I'm in Italy all week, so. Okay. It won't even be next week. It'll be that perfect.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: Even better. Because then you get my undivided attention and we can really go all in and give you a good solid 15 minutes. Like, because. Yeah, I don't want to push my luck because. Yeah. I share the office with Kelly and you met my wife.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: Did you meet my wife?
[00:23:04] Speaker B: I don't remember. We, We. You and I just had a couple quick interactions in November. I don't remember.
Maybe, maybe.
But by the way, it was still such a fun moment when you jumped in and, and, and we ended up. We ended that presentation of mine back in Vegas.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: I forgot about that. So you just mentioned it now. Yeah, Yeah, I was. I was shocked, actually. I. I told you I was coming. I was like, yeah, I'm coming, I'm coming.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: I.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: It was so funny because I got stopped a couple times en route. I was just like, no, I must go.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I must go. Hey, you know what? I'm really enjoying and I think it says on my personality as well, but I'm really having fun with interviews on YouTube. I'm doing more and more. It's also why I want to talk with you, because I just like having a chat. Two people sharing information, ideally some good stuff, and I like it. And I just. I just did one right now. I'm doing a conference in May in France, and it's about speaking. It's about public speaking. And I interviewed this guy who I never. Who I never would have met, but he's one of the speakers. And I offered to interview the speakers on my channel and share with their channel. And so what's really cool is that it's like, it's networking too, right? I'm. I'm talking with this guy who I never would have met, wouldn't have given me the time of day. He's a big fancy speaker and he's happy to be on my. On my show. You know, I'm like. And.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: And you're getting free advice. You're getting free advice. That was.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: It's.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: I'm. I'm so selfish. And I try to tell people this. Like, I'm pretty public about it that, like, when I initially got into this business and I would. I would get people to interview because I wanted to get free information, like, that was like, literally me. I'm like, I want to learn, you know? And here we are a couple hundred interviews later, and it's like, I still do it. And I come from a selfish standpoint because, like, literally when I go into it, I'm asking people questions. Some of them are softball questions I really probably know the answer to, but there's a lot of them where some people are like, oh, that's a good question. I never thought about asking that. I'm like, that's. That's how my brain works. I want to get this person because they have information that I know is going to be great. So.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'm really having fun with that. So I'm doing more of that. And then as we also talked about, I want to just do collaborations, right? So, you know, I'm doing. Yeah, I'm doing collaboration interview with this guy. And hey, I'm going to share the.
The invite you on a Collab for that LinkedIn, it's gonna really.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: It's gonna spread. It's gonna definitely be good. A good reach right there for you, doing the collaboration with that many people.
Don't forget on top that if you do, you offer the collab. Also tag them inside your description as well. So that way you're doubled. Doubled up.
[00:25:34] Speaker B: Okay. All right. See? And you know what I think we could talk about, which I think would be totally fun, but it's also because it's geeking out. It's just YouTube stuff. YouTube stuff, you know, even doesn't have to be authors, But I think YouTube stuff for authors. That'd be a great chat.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: Absolutely. Count me in.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: For sure.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: All right, well, hey, you gotta go longer, but I'm gonna cut you loose. Thank you so much. It's really good catching up with you. We got to do this more often because I never really. I. I'm sure I'm probably going to learn a few things from you as well, so.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: Well, that could be fun. We could even just have a regular YouTube chat. Just talk about YouTube stuff. No. Yeah, that'd be fun. Hit record, you know, 20 minutes.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: Let's see what happens. See. See how it goes. Yeah, sure.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: All right, Dale. Good to see you, everybody. All right.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Bye.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Bye.
